Arsene Wenger - habitual hypocrite…
Looks like Arsene has gone off on another one of his rants, trying to take the splinter out of someone else’s eye before taking the tree trunk out of his own (or whatever it was the Bible said).
To be fair, as usual, he has a point, and he’s directed his attack on deliberate foul play and blames referees for allowing players to escape punishment despite verbally and physically abuse other players.
“We have a young team and they are kicked and punched. And in the end, you are still supposed to say ’sorry, I am not strong enough?’ That is difficult to take, frankly.
“I don’t feel it is right to punch people in the stomach and afterwards to say ‘ok, they are just babies crying’. It is not the way I see the game.”
“I don’t blame the other managers, or the players — if they are asked to give 100 per cent, then of course, they do — but it is the referees who have to decide how far they can go,” said Wenger quickly backtracking (so its the referees fault not your fellow professionals?).
Wenger also said he had video evidence of well-known players and managers swearing freely at referees and not being punished, despite foul and abusive language being a dismissible offence. Again he is right, and the only player I can ever remember being sent off for foul and abusive language was Everton’s McFadden, but that was only because he directed his abuse at the great man himself, Graham Poll….
Prompted to confirm that Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney was one of the swearing players, Wenger said: “He is not the only one.”
Wenger also said he did not swear at referees and believed players and managers should not do so at all.
As I’ve said, to be fair to Wenger he is right, it should not be acceptable, but the comments above, especially those in bold towards the end, come not long after he was charged by the FA for physically and verbally attacking a fellow manager… not acceptable indeed!
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24 opinions for Arsene Wenger - habitual hypocrite…
James
Jan 5, 2007 at 7:01 pm
What a load of garbage you’ve written. You shouldn’t be allowed on the Internet, you’re a fool.
grimandi
Jan 5, 2007 at 7:07 pm
“Looks like Arsene has gone off on another one of his rants, trying to take the splinter out of someone else’s eye before taking the tree trunk out of his own (or whatever it was the Bible said).
To be fair, as usual, he has a point”
than what is your fucking point? this article completely contradicts itself, and what is more, you are a cunt.
ashley petersen
Jan 5, 2007 at 7:13 pm
i believe Arsene is one of the most respected managers of all the clubs in the english game aswell as international.As an avid watcher of the Arsenal games and the other games i never saw him ( lip reading a bit ) swear at the ref or linesmen.If he got up i, it was to contest bad play or the ref making an error of judgement to his view.
Anybody not agreeing with him ,like players Wayne Rooney , Gary Neville ( not picking on one team ) and a lot of others are not watching the same game.
Senior players must show what the beatiful game is all about and they will learn not only from their own club but from their rival counter parts.
Viva Arsene , Viva Arsenal
Freddie
Jan 5, 2007 at 7:17 pm
Rather than Wenger being a hypocrite, it’s you who’s depicting a great degree of lack of basic understanding.
Wenger did not say that rule breaches (such as violent conduct) don’t occur at all. He’s not that naive. All he’s saying is that it’s up to the referee to apply the laws of the game. In fact, he said he does not blame opposition managers for asking their players for 100% commitment - his problem is the referees not applying the laws of the game.
When Wenger committed the transgression you keenly refer to as an indication of hypocrisy, he was called to book, and he duly put his hand up and pleaded guilty. That’s a far cry from a team that punch opposition players off the ball and promptly proceed to call them ‘cry babies’.
So, who’s the hypocrite? As usual your rabid hatred of Wenger blinds you to the very clear and intelligent points he’s making!
Jim Jonas
Jan 5, 2007 at 7:37 pm
While swearing is verbal abuse, it is not the only manner by which one can be verbally abusive. Thus, Wenger can be charged with verbal abuse without swearing at all.
AusGunner
Jan 5, 2007 at 8:03 pm
But Pardew isn’t a referee… he’s a cunt.
Sack the Juggler
Jan 5, 2007 at 9:22 pm
James and Grimaldi - great work lads - you’ve proved Arsene’s point - verbal abuse is never acceptable - even from a pair wankers like you two….
Sack the Juggler
Jan 5, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Ashley - well said beautifully put, but my point was that its all very well for Wenger to complain about verbal and physical abuse, but if he then goes and verbally and physically abuses Pardew he is doing exactly the things he is complaining about.
I do agree he’s well respected within the game, and a very intelligent bloke, but he just seems to think there is one rule for him and one for everyone else
Sack the Juggler
Jan 5, 2007 at 9:29 pm
Freddie - you are right in so far as he complained about a lack of action by the referees (except in his case) but he did also say that verbal and physical abuse is not acceptable, regaless of being charged with it himself
Sack the Juggler
Jan 5, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Jim - another very good point, people can be abusive without swearing, either by their body language (attitude) or their tone - does it matter what words they use while they do it?
Sack the Juggler
Jan 5, 2007 at 9:31 pm
AusGunner - can’t find any holes in your argument….
Freddie
Jan 5, 2007 at 9:42 pm
Sack the Juggler - But one can surely say, “What I did was totally unacceptable, and I deserve to be punished for it”. That means they accept they did something wrong, they put their hand up and deserve to be punished - Wenger didn’t contest the charge or the penalty, remember. I don’t detect any hypocrisy in that at all.
And I don’t see how Wenger wants one rule for himself and another one for others, given he freely accepted calpability and took his punishment, like a brave soul. Witness the Sheffield United team, who punch the lights out of otherwise superior opponents and then proceed to label them ‘cry babies’! Where is the bravery in that? As kids, we were always told that bullies are cowards, and it’s never been truer!
Freddie
Jan 5, 2007 at 9:49 pm
Sack the Juggler wrote:
“Freddie - you are right in so far as he complained about a lack of action by the referees (except in his case) but he did also say that verbal and physical abuse is not acceptable, regaless of being charged with it himself”
Wenger being charged - and I remind you he’s denying and contesting the charge - doesn’t tantamount to being guilty of the offence…innocent until proven guilty and all that…
His comments about violent conduct and ‘doing’ people have come after Morgan was proved guilty and banned by the FA. The two situations are miles apart, wouldn’t you agree?
Donjohnni
Jan 5, 2007 at 11:01 pm
You should be shot for being so stupid.
Tombo
Jan 6, 2007 at 12:03 am
Arsene was provoked and abused in his area…….
rich
Jan 6, 2007 at 12:40 am
its a shame that you dislike wenger and or arsenal so much that you have to be hyper-critical of everything they do,however small it is,regardless of the provocation involved,i.e pardew screaming in his face,and saying negatives things about arsenal reaching the champions league final,concerning the use of foreign players,generaly being xenophobic,and all this after the help and advice wenger gave pardew when he first went into management,but wenger unlike you isnt a saint,he is just a frog
chris
Jan 6, 2007 at 12:46 am
what are you trying to write? this is one of the worst articles ive read.. no point ..no conclusion and no conviction in what you are trying to convey!!
like the comments say get off the net!!!
Sack the Juggler
Jan 6, 2007 at 1:28 am
chris - likewise
Sack the Juggler
Jan 6, 2007 at 1:32 am
Freddie another good post, and I guess if he’d said it your way then I’d feel more ambivalent towards him, but he doesn’t say it that way, and I know he’s an intelligent and educated man, whom, I’m assured is very charming in person. That’s why his ocassional outbursts seem to wrong.
Sack the Juggler
Jan 6, 2007 at 1:40 am
Rich, generally I admire the man for his achievements and his definitely admire his team and his football.
Its his pronouncements that I find distasteful. He’s not the only manager who does this, and I know that his words can be taken out of context, but he seems to deliberately choose to focus on a certain aspect that will ignore the wider subject to avoid bringing his own perceived failings to to the forefront.
If I didn’t know he was french I would swear he was Swiss or Austrian, both nations seem to enjoy the minutie rather than the big picture.
Sack the Juggler
Jan 6, 2007 at 1:42 am
Donjohnni - and you should be forced to live a life of ignorance…. oops, too late!
bennyboy
Jan 9, 2007 at 11:23 am
Juggler, you are such a pathetic, weak, little loser do you know that ? You should be ashamed to call yourself Scouse. Even though you are a Bluenose you are still an embarrssment to Liverpool. I pity your family.
kagimu brian vicent
Jan 21, 2007 at 3:47 pm
arsene you are going to win because a mighty hand is behind you that of JESUS CHRIST OF Prophet John Obiri Yeboah and Prophetess Loice is behind you.first of all you will win 3-0 over man u and atleast two trophies at the end of the season.when that happens know that what i said is true and please check on the website
all i have said in the name of Jesus Christ of Prophet John Obiri Yeboah and Prophetess Loice
kagimu brian vicent
Jan 21, 2007 at 3:51 pm
arsene you are going to win because a mighty hand is behind you that of JESUS CHRIST OF Prophet John Obiri Yeboah and Prophetess Loice is behind you.first of all you will win 3-0 over man u and atleast two trophies at the end of the season.when that happens know that what i said is true and please check on the website
all i have said in the name of Jesus Christ of Prophet John Obiri Yeboah and Prophetess Loice
http://www.prophetjohnobiriyeboahfoundationchurch.4t.com
kagbrian@yahoo.co.uk
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